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Bashing Nintendo
Over the years I have constantly bashed Nintendo for low performance hardware, casual approach to game development, and few good 3rd party titles.

After years of going to other companies I feel I have misjudged Nintendo.  Capcom was my original savior of gaming up until their DLC "scams".  I felt that I could trust Bioware, but their constant lying made me question developers words.  EA games made me question whether a product is a quality merchandise and wasn't rushed. 

I thought Nintendo let me down with the last generation, but at least I don't feel I've been cheated, lied to, and pushed to the side.  As a consumer I want to be acknowledged by the publishers/developers as important.



Just a thought.

Edit:  Apparently I wasn't direct when I was talking about DLC "scams".
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Black Star - Pavel wrote at 10:47 AM on Apr 16, 2012 :
Of course. Nintendo is good, not perfect, but is better than other companies in some things.

I trust Nintendo since i was a little kid, and i still trust in their games and consoles.
KillLock wrote at 10:55 AM on Apr 16, 2012 :
I really hate EA games. They sell the same game for several years before making an actual leap in features/graphics. To top it off they sell these games at a 60$ price tag, straight up milking money.
Miles of SmashWiki wrote at 11:20 AM on Apr 16, 2012 :
Nintendo at least understands the risks of alienating people when it comes to DLC, and has tried to stay away from it. While there are some consequences to that, it does have the effect of games working harder to be complete from the start and it helps towards building a better relationship with the player.
waldorf2007 wrote at 11:21 AM on Apr 16, 2012 :
I mean nintendo's pretty honest, they just do whatever, and what they did, they say. They didn't really cover up anything about smash, when they delayed it they said "we're sorry but it's delayed." Not room for error. I may enjoy other games more than smash but I have had very little reason to not trust nintendo. I have ZERO trust for almost all other companies.
Z3PHYR-11 wrote at 11:30 AM on Apr 16, 2012 :
Cool... always rely on Nintendo offering great entertainment when it comes to games. DLC is just something extra to entice the player to purchase, usually it isn't even necessary to have. Yet, we always fall prey to that, as well.

-_-'
t1mmy wrote at 11:55 AM on Apr 16, 2012 :
Nintendo seems to develop games and hardware that they find innovative/fun and then present it to the customer. Sony and Microsoft seem to develop their products based on what they think will make the most money and then push it onto their customers.
ritsu luv wrote at 11:55 AM on Apr 16, 2012 :
The best part of Nintendo is that they honestly don't give a **** about what their fanbase thinks. And that, to me, is what makes a fantastic artist.

KillLock wrote at 10:55 AM on Apr 16, 2012 :
I really hate EA games. They sell the same game for several years before making an actual leap in features/graphics. To top it off they sell these games at a 60$ price tag, straight up milking money.

That's Activision, moron. Unless you're talking about Madden and NHL, in which case, way to judge an entire company based on two series.
iSpiN wrote at 12:00 PM on Apr 16, 2012 :
^That includes almost all of their sport titles they release every year.

I agree that Activision does the same thing with their Call of Duty series, but being biased towards EA and calling someone else a moron really doesn't help your claim.
Red-Dragon wrote at 12:08 PM on Apr 16, 2012 :
lol I honestly think people are far to unnapreciative of their videogame developer companies. I just look at it as: They're the ones making me the games and consoles, so I should be thankful whenever they choose to release new consoles, titles etc. Coz if we piss them off... and they turn around and say "Right, screw all of you unthankful (insert profanication here)!"

Then I'll be screwed for a handful of really good titles, Golden Sun, Metroid, Zelda, Advance Wars, etc.

In contrary to my post.... Capcom does suck btw :p
The only thing they should be thanked for... No sorry.... The only reason why they should be allowed to keep their LIVES is because of the magnificence which is, Okami. ;)

Basically bro I agree with your blog :p
Horsy wrote at 12:29 PM on Apr 16, 2012 :
I have always loved Nintendo since my very early childhood!

Always was and will forever be a mainstream gamer. (Mario, Sonic, Pokemon, Zelda titles, etc.)
luckylime wrote at 12:58 PM on Apr 16, 2012 :
I don't feel that Nintendo thinks it's customers are really that important :\ I think at this point they're just getting by on fame, riding on the coattails of the name they made over the years. Even they're first party franchises are starting to go downhill (Kirby Epic Yarn, Metroid other M, F-Zero...... owait). They don't listen to the fans, they don't stick with their games, and they don't show up at events (at least none that I've heard of).

That's just where the trend I see is going so far, maybe things will be different with the WiiU.
iSpiN wrote at 1:05 PM on Apr 16, 2012 :
Red-Dragon wrote at 11:08 AM on Apr 16, 2012 :
lol I honestly think people are far to unnapreciative of their videogame developer companies. I just look at it as: They're the ones making me the games and consoles

Simple response why they don't backlash at their "customers". They will lose money.
iSpiN wrote at 1:08 PM on Apr 16, 2012 :
@luckylime
Can't please everyone. I do not entirely enjoy their new games. My 9 year old sister does.
dmbrandon wrote at 1:15 PM on Apr 16, 2012 :
I can't even...
Dahniska wrote at 1:25 PM on Apr 16, 2012 :
I feel like nowadays, just like in it's beginning, Nintendo remains the most original and pioneering of the bigger video game companies. They go out of their comfort zone by trying to bring the consumer new ideas and new styles of gameplay, and they always have. Zelda for example, Mario even, Smash, and many other games they've created were the first of that type of game ever to gain popularity and mainstream success. Nowadays, with less original game ideas, Nintendo goes out of their way to bring new advances in hardware and consoles that other companies like Sony and Microsoft will only follow in once they see the success Nintendo had.
For example, the N64 was the first console to have 4 player options; now, most consoles do. The Wii was the first to really nail motion control; and right behind it, Sony and Microsoft quickly made motion control add-ons for their systems (Sony's is much like the Wii's that it's obviously designed directly on it, lol). Now we're hearing about Sony making a possible "Smash-style" fighting game of its own.
Just a few observations. I feel like Nintendo is the most original and pioneering company of the big ones, right now. Heck, they don't even have a lot of games other than their own for their consoles. They do their own thing, and overall, it's good, imo.
iSpiN wrote at 1:34 PM on Apr 16, 2012 :
@dmbrandon
Problem?

@Diska
Sony has copied everything Nintendo. Surprised you didn't mention the handhelds. Touch screens on 3DS/Vita as an example.
CT ZeRo wrote at 1:35 PM on Apr 16, 2012 :
Riot Games all the way dude.
iSpiN wrote at 1:38 PM on Apr 16, 2012 :
@Gonzalo ZeRo
They haven't really disappointed me other than disagreements on balance issues.

Hoping what they have good now doesn't stop.
Tony.1 wrote at 1:49 PM on Apr 16, 2012 :
as u can see nintendo takes its time to make the new software/hardware and triying to get better each time, i fully trust nintendo since it has never leted me down i trust it more than others.
my opinion on the PSP generation haves been a copy to nintendo for over this years and u can say they have yust a few games of their own, in xbox generation no complains ecept 2 things 1 u need to pay in order to play online 2 they may need more games.
Giant Baba wrote at 2:03 PM on Apr 16, 2012 :
The existence of DLC is god damn depressing and not surprisingly it's used in the most capitalistic, money-grubbing way possible (shoutous to Prince of Persia's Epilogue).

Don't get me wrong, Nintendo's shift towards casual games is probably (ok, definitely) for financial reasons as well, but at least their approach to game design isn't so cynical.
Red Roy wrote at 2:11 PM on Apr 16, 2012 :
Diska wrote at 1:25 PM on Apr 16, 2012 :
I feel like nowadays, just like in it's beginning, Nintendo remains the most original and pioneering of the bigger video game companies. They go out of their comfort zone by trying to bring the consumer new ideas and new styles of gameplay, and they always have. Zelda for example, Mario even, Smash, and many other games they've created were the first of that type of game ever to gain popularity and mainstream success. Nowadays, with less original game ideas, Nintendo goes out of their way to bring new advances in hardware and consoles that other companies like Sony and Microsoft will only follow in once they see the success Nintendo had.
For example, the N64 was the first console to have 4 player options; now, most consoles do. The Wii was the first to really nail motion control; and right behind it, Sony and Microsoft quickly made motion control add-ons for their systems (Sony's is much like the Wii's that it's obviously designed directly on it, lol). Now we're hearing about Sony making a possible "Smash-style" fighting game of its own.
Just a few observations. I feel like Nintendo is the most original and pioneering company of the big ones, right now. Heck, they don't even have a lot of games other than their own for their consoles. They do their own thing, and overall, it's good, imo.


Pretty believable, honestly. Nintendo seems to me like the LAST gaming company that actually cares somewhat, and isn't that why they are doing all these new/awesome things (HOPEFULLY) with the WiiU?
ritsu luv wrote at 2:36 PM on Apr 16, 2012 :
They don't care at all. That should be visible by looking at the fact that:

- They don't fix broken games
- They don't update games
- Notice BioWare's Mass Effect. Now look at how they're trying to appease fans.

Nintendo would never do that. Its developers only care about their artistic vision, and its suits only care about money.

And like I said before, I wouldn't have it any other way. It's nice to have an artist in the industry that doesn't back down.
iSpiN wrote at 2:53 PM on Apr 16, 2012 :
@bceagles
Bioware reacted only cause 60,000 fans wanted to change the ending cause it was not only bad, but it was subjectively bad and not logical. They also didn't listen to the fans and the polls and instead of getting rid of the star child which no one wanted they kept it cause that would hurt their "artistic integrity". They only added to the bad ending. They already stated they won't CHANGE ANYTHING. They are only trying to shut up as many people as possible w/o having to spend more money. Bioware looked incompetent and arrogant. They constantly kept saying they were listening, but the massive number of polls on their own website states otherwise.

I stated why I bashed Nintendo and yes they don't update, but at least they haven't left me feeling betrayed by the company I invested in for years.
dmbrandon wrote at 3:17 PM on Apr 16, 2012 :
Yeah, problem. Nintendo doesn't give a **** damn about their customers whatsoever.

Shoutouts to Blizzard, forever. The only company on the planet doing **** for US.
wWw Dazwa wrote at 3:20 PM on Apr 16, 2012 :
dmbrandon wrote at 3:17 PM on Apr 16, 2012 :
Shoutouts to Blizzard, forever. The only company on the planet doing **** for US.


the technology for LAN though? still not there yet
iSpiN wrote at 3:25 PM on Apr 16, 2012 :
@dmbrandon
Nintendo is the lesser of the evils of companies I thought highly of.

Also, hasn't Blizzard been owned by Activision for the past 2 years now? Correct me if I'm wrong. Not like that is preventing me from purchasing Diablo 3 for me and my girlfriend.
dmbrandon wrote at 3:28 PM on Apr 16, 2012 :
Watermelon, your clearly uninformed and biased posts for a money grubbing company forced me to subconsciously x out my entire browser. I haven't done that in over a year. That's what tabs are for.

This is how stupid you sound, making these comments. It's honestly altering my state of mind with levels of grief and confusion that I haven'g felt in a long time.

Honestly, I think I'm just going to skip having children. There is no way I can let them be in a world with people who say such ridiculous things. Cause if you have such terrible opinions about gaming, which seems to be a big hobby, I couldn't imagine the things you would do/say if you ended up in politics. Sure, it's a long shot, but I'm not gonna take any chances.

Diska wrote at 1:25 PM on Apr 16, 2012 :
For example, the N64 was the first console to have 4 player options

IS THAT SO?
dmbrandon wrote at 3:30 PM on Apr 16, 2012 :
Blizzard is not owned by anyone, lmao. Blizzard and Activision MERGED, but retain their individual teams and licenses. Which is why WoW has the most fan service of any game in history, and why every major title they release is absolutely amazing.

Nintendo's best titles and flagship series are crap these days. (Compared to the older iterations.) Anyone who says Other M, Twilight Princess, or Skyward Sword are anything more than 8/10 is lying to themselves.

Blizzard hasn't released a flagship game lower than 9.5 in about 15 years. Less is more.
dmbrandon wrote at 3:31 PM on Apr 16, 2012 :
****, Starcraft Ghost was on point to be a 9/10, easy, and they scrapped it. (and yes, I did play it.)
Prawn the Blackguard wrote at 3:35 PM on Apr 16, 2012 :
DM I've heard from many people who played at a high level that WoW has fallen off as of late and that it's becoming a joke dedicated to the casual base. I mean, Kung Fu pandas? Really?
dmbrandon wrote at 3:36 PM on Apr 16, 2012 :
I hate this feeling of loyalty to companies. Stop looking to be a fanboy. If a game comes out and it's good, you should feel loyalty to the creative team behind it, at an individual basis. Not the company that is supplying the funds.

I'd tell Blizzard to eat a **** in a heartbeat if they tried to push some garbage like Wii Music at me. Nintendo's creative abilities are well and dandy. But the games they release for the "pioneering technology" (Which it isn't even, considering they're being sued for every piece of equipment they've made since the analog.) that are worth more than 30$ are few, and very very far between. In the interim, they paste those same loser characters into everything they sell to market **** and push every dollar out our wallets.

Nintendo is the main reason I'm so willing to pirate everything that I can.
dmbrandon wrote at 3:39 PM on Apr 16, 2012 :
Prawn, the Pandarian are part of the lore. I fail to see how the aesthetics of a race indicate falling off.

As for the competitive base, people are pissed that the casual players have a lot of gear. The top level players still have extraordinarily hard challenges to beat, and much better reward for it. MoP will allow people to do challenge runs, which is based purely on skill and not luck or gear, or anything else. They're doing a lot to ensure EVERYONE gets their money's worth. From the player who wants to grind to level 50 three times and call it a day, to the player who wants to raid one night a week with friends, to the kid who is a gladiator on his battlegroup with every boss down on hard mode.

That's fanservice.

But no, Nintendo adds tripping to Brawl so we stop trying to play it on a national level of competition. ******s.
TheRealBobMan wrote at 3:47 PM on Apr 16, 2012 :
Uh.. they have a partnership. Blizzard bought or absorbed Vivendi or something like that, and then they partnered up with Activision. Hence things like CoD ELITE to create recurring revenue for Activision like with WoW. I'm not sure what Blizzard specifically gets out of it yet, other than a business partner to watch their backs. I'm not sure what about Activision's style Blizzard likes, but I think it's more of a "let's share how we stay successful" sort of thing than a "we want you to do this" sort of thing. Plus, it has to help if they coordinate and don't release their biggest projects at the same time, since CoD is the shooter everyone buys if they want to own a shooter, even if they don't play them, and everyone buys Blizzard releases. In this economy, they can't really afford to compete directly, even if the products have drastically different target demographics. The people that want both would ultimately have to choose if they came out at the same time, and that would hurt both of them.


Well... that's what I'm assuming at least, based on what I've read in articles.
t0mmy wrote at 3:51 PM on Apr 16, 2012 :
I have a used 8-bit NES still works great (don't even need to blow out the carts), SNES works even better, the N64 is still doing well, and I'm sure the Gamecube will work like it did the day I got it when I dust it off a bit. One of the Wii stopped reading discs, but it's hacked with a harddrive and we use that to play backups of our games and will probably outlive the Gamecube since it doesn't use the disc.

Including all the amazing games they've produced since the golden era of video gaming and their legacy of handheld consoles, I'd think that's a pretty good track record.
Haven't made up my mind entirely about their next home system (Wii U) but I'm sure it'll be fine and worth the purchase for Smash, Zelda, Mario, Pikmin, etc.
Bloodynite wrote at 3:57 PM on Apr 16, 2012 :
what about valve? i know they dont really do hardware but still
Bizkit wrote at 6:20 PM on Apr 16, 2012 :
The funny part about this blog is people seem to assume the Wii U won't have DLC, and that there was some morality reason that the Wii didn't have DLC. I mean seriously? You don't think that it may have something to do with the Wii being an abomination of a console that wasn't even impressive for its time compared to PS3/Xbox360? Nintendo has shown they're not too smart at adapting quite a bit of the time these days, look at the FC system (quite possibly the worst multiplayer networking system in the history of gaming) and lack of HD support for older Wii games, etc.

tldr; Don't be too naive in thinking Nintendo for some reason cares about its consumers more than Sony & Microsoft. They're all terrible with their consumers most of the time these days. Not that this excuses the DLC abuse lately or if Sony/Microsoft go through with the rumored plans of blocking used games on their new consoles.
dmbrandon wrote at 6:32 PM on Apr 16, 2012 :
Wow. I just read Bizkit's post, and thought it said tommy, and got REALLY CONFUSED. All is well.
TheMetaknightLiesBroken wrote at 6:34 PM on Apr 16, 2012 :
Bizkit wrote at 5:20 PM on Apr 16, 2012 :
The funny part about this blog is people seem to assume the Wii U won't have DLC, and that there was some morality reason that the Wii didn't have DLC. I mean seriously? You don't think that it may have something to do with the Wii being an abomination of a console that wasn't even impressive for its time compared to PS3/Xbox360? Nintendo has shown they're not too smart at adapting quite a bit of the time these days, look at the FC system (quite possibly the worst multiplayer networking system in the history of gaming) and lack of HD support for older Wii games, etc.

tldr; Don't be too naive in thinking Nintendo for some reason cares about its consumers more than Sony & Microsoft. They're all terrible with their consumers most of the time these days. Not that this excuses the DLC abuse lately or if Sony/Microsoft go through with the rumored plans of blocking used games on their new consoles.
Hevil93 wrote at 6:48 PM on Apr 16, 2012 :
I love Nintendo because of one thing: Their materials. They really went all out on their reserves of Nintendium with the GameCube. Hell I can still play DK64... Well... I just need to find a controller with a working analog stick. At least I can still play New Super Mario Bros., that doesn't use the LR buttons :3

Seriously though, the DSi would be perfect if it only had the GBA cartridge slot.
The Truth wrote at 6:52 PM on Apr 16, 2012 :
Bizkit Im pretty sure theyve come out very vocally against DLC. Not that they couldnt change their minds, but thats the stance for now.

Im reading a book on the history of Nintendo atm. Pretty interesting, Id definitely say its a mistake to assume Japanese companies like Nintendo do business in the same way American businesses like Microsoft and developers here do. So I wouldnt agree with DMBrandons analysis atm.
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