M2K, Vinnie and nairo are training mode monsters.

the options they choose

how hard they work.

confidence IMO

Pelca and Bizkit play bad characters

Well, more experience they have with the game itself does give you more choices to take, so they sort of tie in together I think. That's just me anyway.

Diago plays 6+ hours a day just to practice SF. I don't think many people put that much effort in brawl, but 15-30 min a day for a week helped me out dramatically. Smash is like any sport, you have to practice to see results. You can't just not practice and expect to do well...i.e. most smash players. I personally love training mode. I can work on my tech skill w/ Pit and try to play as quick and fluid as possible.

falco is good wtf

vs CPUs > training mode. Moves don't stale in training mode.

Metaknight, Ice Climbers, and a few smarter options.

i play cpus

Nairo wrote at 11:49 PM on May 14, 2012 :
i play cpus

I play CPUs as well. And I tend to make bad decisions quite a bit of the time, which is probably the major reasons for gaps from high level to national level play.

I think they play cpus

^and G&W Smart guy ;)

I've been thinking about the same thing lately, Zinoto. I hope I can figure it out too :\

Also, to the ones that are saying they play CPUs - do you play lv7, and is it 1v1, 1v2, or 1v3?

one of you needs to make a "how to get better by fighting CPUs" guide... because it seems PREPOSTEROUS to me

Playing against the comps has its uses. There are certain skills that they're good for, even if they don't teach you fundamentals like how to read someone. This is why I got so pissed off at people saying not to play against the comps within the first 3 months of the game coming out. 3 months into it, you don't know what all of the moves are yet and their properties. Even if you played non-stop and had some frame data for all of that information, you still need time to adjust to every move's animation so you can react to it faster. Like I've said before, you're reacting a lot faster if you recognize a move on frame 1 or 2 instead of frame 8. In a game like Guilty Gear, it's the difference between having to block the slow overhead on reaction and getting to punish the slow overhead on reaction.

Sirlin says that he considers Yomi and Valuation to be the most important skills. Valuation is extremely important to pick up as part of understanding the game (you wont understand the why behind the choices players make without understanding it), but I think understanding valuation well mostly affects how quickly you learn a game. You do need valuation to have yomi though.

Yomi is all of the reading and predicting. I'd say this is hugely important in Brawl since you can't make up for a lack of it with high execution skill.


There's also a certain confidence that high level players need to have. You have to be able to do the right move when it's the right move (or rather, there is no "right" move. Just moves that are "more right" than others for the circumstance). Sometimes you want to defend and sometimes you want to attack. If you let the other player scare you, you start to defend and play reactively at the wrong time. On the one hand, you're slightly advantaged on reaction, but that slight advantage is less than a frame. Then, when you factor how fast some moves are, and how many things you need to account for, you realize that you're severely disadvantaged if not expecting specific moves.

Steroids.

What separates good players from great players is their thought models, and how efficient they are at rearranging those models to accommodate new information. Players like Bizkit or Pelca, to use your example, who get really good, but stay at or around that level, in my opinion, found a good model to approach their character with, but typically don't actively try to amend it. Players like, to use your example again, Vinnie, could be argued to actively analyze their thinking patterns and build newer and better thought models.

So, I don't think any person is predisposed to be bad or amazing, rather, the delineation is in how they approach their thinking and how they choose to reconstruct themselves.

Mk baby.

Verm makes me think about my life, and I feel like I learn about myself without him even really knowing me. I think that I can ask him about the secrets of the universe and hed know for some reason.

training mode is your life.

Izumi-kun wrote at 12:54 AM on May 15, 2012 :
Verm makes me think about my life, and I feel like I learn about myself without him even really knowing me. I think that I can ask him about the secrets of the universe and hed know for some reason.


lol'd

I believe Verm knows so much because he is a god. You see.. Vermanubis is actually Thor, God of Lightning.

I think it's a combination of their options, skill, and wins.

they have better training buddies, MI is free

Hard work pays off

I think it is vsing good people constantly and not being predictable