Fast-Falling Lasers - New Technique

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#1
1:09 PM Jul 30 2009 2009
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Fast-Falling Lasers
When Kirby copies Falco's lasers he normally cannot fast-fall while firing the lasers, fast-falling has to occur before the lasers are fired. I discovered that there's a small window of opportunity after Kirby does an Aerial Attack that he can buffer into a Laser and fast-fall as he fires.
 
To do this, full jump a F-air, B-air or U-air (the D-air and N-air are too lengthy for this to work properly). Right as the Aerial Attack finishes, buffer into a N-Special to fire a laser and immediately buffer into a fast-fall. The timing can seem tight at first, but if you do it right Kirby will pull out his gun and begin to fire a laser the same time he starts his fast-fall.

You can see the difference between a normal laser without fast-falling and one that is fast-fallen. Simply do a full jumped Aerial and buffer into a Laser without buffering into a fast-fall. The laser will be higher up - about a Kirby's height from the ground - and comparatively the fast-fallen laser will be right when Kirby is landing on the ground making for the lowest shot possible. Also, when buffering into a Laser using a B-air or U-air, Kirby will not landing-cancel his laser for some reason, but by fast-falling you will always landing-cancel the laser. This has to do with timing, because if you do not buffer the Laser after a B-air or U-air and instead fire it off after a few frames, the Laser will landing-cancel.
#2
3:58 PM Jul 30 2009 2009
Turniphead
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Sounds cool. I'll try it out some time, but I've gotta practice it first. XD
#3
9:49 PM Jul 30 2009 2009
A1lion835
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Seems pretty hawt. Nice find, t1mmy! if only that fc thing on april fool's was real...:@
#4
10:14 PM Jul 30 2009 2009
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Makes this more interesting against Falco.
#5
10:22 AM Jul 31 2009 2009
PHaZeHyuga
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i love using falco's lasers aginst him ^_^

kirby has a shorthop 1-2-and 3 lazers

and nao this o-o
#6
6:49 PM Aug 2 2009 2009
t1mmy
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As we could have presumed, this technique works with Fox Lasers as well as Falco Lasers. What fun!
#7
1:00 PM Aug 3 2009 2009
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If only he had the gun at the start of a match...against MK icon_smile
#8
2:53 PM Aug 3 2009 2009
t1mmy
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Well, I know of a secret code that lets you start with lasers, plus it increases the damage your grab combo does on Meta Knight x5. It's called selecting Falco instead of Kirby. Lol.
#9
6:39 PM Aug 3 2009 2009
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That's pretty cool but wouldn't you rather save your neutral-B for swallowcides against Falcos?
#10
8:42 PM Aug 5 2009 2009
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While we're on the topic of Falco's Lasers, I thought that I'd throw in something that I found while practicing Fast-Falling Lasers. I'm not sure if you guys already know about it, but here ya go anyways. icon_razz Okay, so we all know that Kirby and Falco can do a short hop and get off two lasers without landing lag. As I was doing that, I noticed something that would happen from time to time. If I started to shoot the lasers just as a jumped, then as I would land (While mashing B into oblivion XD) I would land cancel a third laser with it having no animation or landing lag. I already knew that you could cancel a laser like that, but I didn't know you could do it at the end of the double laser jump. I think it will also work on a full hop, but I mainly did only short hops the whole time so I can't say for sure. So, now you can get off three lasers instead of the usual two with this technique and you can keep doing it many times in succession with some practice. This is a great setup for a F-Smash at close range since the opponent will be stunned by the laser while you hit them with you attack right after wards. It may also prove to be a good technique to keep your opponent at bay and away from you. This was pretty hard to do when I would slide my thumb from Y to B since I would often start shooting too late. But once I set L to jump, it became much easier since I didn't have to move my thumb from B. Again, sorry if you already know about it or if it's pretty useless if you try it out, but I just thought I'd let you guys know.
#11
10:25 PM Aug 6 2009 2009
t1mmy
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Short Hop Triple Laser has been known pretty much since the release of Brawl. You can also do Short Hop Quadruple Lasers with Fox Lasers and if you Full Jump it you can do Quintuple Lasers. icon_biggrin

(You could Short Hop Triple Laser with Fox's lasers in Melee)
#12
10:39 PM Aug 6 2009 2009
Turniphead
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Man... I'm always slow on finding out about all of these tricks. XD I also just found out about that "downward momentum spit-out under the stage" thing last week or something. :/

And thanks for the Fox Laser info too, t1mmy.
#13
3:50 PM Aug 7 2009 2009
Asdioh
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If you know about 'quickdraw' with Link and Toon Link, Kirby can do something similar. With either TL or Link's power, do a short hop Bair or Uair, and at the end press B and you'll do the "quickdraw" arrow. It's pretty useful.

Posted this since it's similar enough to this Falco thing. Probably been known, I know I posted it somewhere quite a while ago..

hai guyz
#14
12:40 PM Aug 8 2009 2009
t1mmy
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That avatar picture is repulsive, but I love it. Creepy Kirby ftw!
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