#41 2:24 PM Mar 16 2011 2011
H2tM.Darc Counterpicking Homo Joined: Mar 2007	Are you sure Draykin? I don't recall the ESL being mastery and runeless

#42 8:52 PM Mar 16 2011 2011
Watkins Joined: Jun 2008	Draykin trying to hustle the goods cause he's bad.

#43 3:29 AM Mar 17 2011 2011
Draykin Torture Never Felt so Good Joined: Aug 2008	WCG? you watch it? guess not...

#44 3:59 AM Mar 17 2011 2011
Draykin Torture Never Felt so Good Joined: Aug 2008	they were allowed at PAX, pretty much preference of tourney holder...since its an online tourney it will be hard for ppl to get caught, other than the ppl playing and seeing high AS, constant crits, or just doing a lot more dmg than usual with armor or spell pen. just saying, im down for whatever, gonna be fun either way. good luck nigs

#45 10:24 AM Mar 17 2011 2011
Watkins Joined: Jun 2008	Oh okay, if we don't have the same rules as WCG we aren't legit. Also, "usually" means one tournament. Heavy sarcasm aside; the way I see it, the rule is there are so people who aren't 30 yet don't have a disadvantage. But since when are tournaments centered around catering to newbs? Taking away half of the games depth for that is painfully retarded, and if that's what's going down then I could guess my team won't be the only one not playing.

#46 10:30 AM Mar 17 2011 2011
H2tM.Darc Counterpicking Homo Joined: Mar 2007	I couldn't find "no runes or masteries" in the rules for WCG http://www.wcg.com/6th/2010/games/rule_2010_gf/WCG_2010_Grand_Final_Regulations_ver_1.1.pdf Also no runes and Masteries seem like a huge hit to Junglers. Also a hit to the depth of the game. Or is it the "no items" equivalent in smash?

#47 12:00 PM Mar 17 2011 2011
Naucitos Joined: Apr 2009	yeah, draykin, thats not true at all, they had runes/masteries at wcg

#48 8:14 PM Mar 17 2011 2011
Draykin Torture Never Felt so Good Joined: Aug 2008	hmmm, announcers must've been wrong cuz during one of the finals matches i could have specifically remembered them pointing that out. w/e i've been to a couple in my area and thats what they did. do we even have a set time yet for this?

#49 10:50 PM Mar 17 2011 2011
Sean Champion Joined: Jan 2008	Looks like I have to back out on this 1. Next time. My ride for a tourney leaves this day.

#50 10:54 PM Mar 17 2011 2011
Mittens McKittens Mostly Harmless Joined: Mar 2008	"NO RUNES OR MASTERIES Stupid.

#51 10:59 PM Mar 17 2011 2011
Arikie Friendly Joined: Jul 2008	no runes or masteries????

#52 11:02 PM Mar 17 2011 2011
Sean Champion Joined: Jan 2008	Yea put them on. I think people who are lower summer level wont care too much. They should be knowing what they are getting into.

#53 11:34 PM Mar 17 2011 2011
Watkins Joined: Jun 2008	My team is going to drop out because of the rule change, it's more fun and constructive to just play normal games all night. Anyone who is 1400+ ranked feel free to add me btw, I'm always looking for new people to duo queue with. 8o

#54 11:56 PM Mar 17 2011 2011
Vex Kasrani Defender Joined: Aug 2007	Probably won't enter if there's no runes or masteries, it ****'s junglers really hard.

#55 11:58 PM Mar 17 2011 2011
TheMetaknightLiesBroken Troll Joined: Apr 2009	The reason i put no runes or masteries was because someone below stated thats what WGC does and it would make it legit.

#56 11:58 PM Mar 17 2011 2011
Vex Kasrani Defender Joined: Aug 2007	They use runes and masteries.

#57 11:59 PM Mar 17 2011 2011
TheMetaknightLiesBroken Troll Joined: Apr 2009	Draykin wrote at 3:21 PM on Mar 15, 2011: btw tourneys are usually no masteries or runes, idk if youre going to have that tho...makes it legit

#58 12:00 AM Mar 18 2011 2011
toobusytocare Shark Joined: Jul 2008	Vex Kasrani wrote at 8:56 PM on Mar 17, 2011 : Probably won't enter if there's no runes or masteries, it ****'s junglers really hard.

#59 12:02 AM Mar 18 2011 2011
Eggz Better Than You Joined: Sep 2007	v

#60 12:02 AM Mar 18 2011 2011
Reyson Spread the Love Joined: Feb 2011	This seems awesome. Ill think about it. Hes trying to do lvl balance with no masteries and runes. I doubt people here are anything below 30. Why not just have masteries and no runes?

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