There is literally no point in debating with xzx and ccst. It's like debating with, say, M2K. They are so 100% sure that their opinion is obviously correct that they see no reason to back it up. Even when asked. Multiple times.

Unlike M2K, they don't have the weight of "I'm the best player in Brawl" behind them.
Oh yeah and the infraction rules are ****ing amazing. Discuss.