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#1 9:37 PM May 2 2009 2009
A1lion835 The Best Team Money Can Buy Joined: Nov 2008	The official Ninja Spike Thread Alright, as I'm sure we've all seen, our uthrow can stagespike a few people on a few stages. This is gonna be where I post results I or t1mmy or anyone else has found. First, in case you haven't seen this, here it is: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jf6fhmS9Ytc Alright, so we know this works vs lucario on PS1. t1mmy also posted this on AiB: Quote (originally posted by t1mmy): I found out for myself that this also works on Spear Pillar and Frigate Orpheon. It works on all four edges of Spear Pillar, and only on one of the stage configurations for Frigate - the first one that you start on, under the platform on the left hand side (it won't work on the right hand side with the platform that goes up and down, nor on the pseudo-edge that is made when the platform leaves the stage). Also, this works on ZSS except for on Spear Pillar. I did all the above research myself. I doubt it's on Smashboards. XD Edit: I just checked this out on SWF and the only info was that it works on ZSS and that there's something weird about Shiek. The U-throw didn't work on Shiek when I tested it, but I'll go take another look at it and see what's odd about her. tl;dr version: he says that this also works on every ledge on Spear Pillar and the first part of Frigate Orpheon and that this works on ZSS except on Spear Pillar. Here's a list of people we know this can be done to, listed both as Character Stage Stage and Stage Character Character. Feel free to PM me or anyone else researching this with me. Note: this thread was started on March 8th on smashboards, where the 3 people researching with me posted their info. I honestly couldn't have done this without them; they probably did more work than me, but making a thread colorful and attractive was a job in itself (and I helped quite a bit too). Search a character or stage in square brackets [] to find them on the list. Note that all characters can be Ninja Spiked on Big Blue, and most can be spiked on Lylat Cruise and Skyworld. All links are colored in Tan. If it's in the format (A:BC-D:EF) after part of a list, it means it's in approximately that time frame in the vid. All paranthetical text that says restrictions for Ninja Spiking or any odd occurrences when Ninja Spiked is colored in Sky Blue. Finally, if you wish to help, I'll add your name to the list. It would be helpful if you started researching all the characters on any stage that Lucario can be Ninja Spiked on; however, PS1 has already been tested with all chars, so there is no need to test it. Any explanation as to Ganon's strange properties (he is only Ninja Spiked some of the time, with certain events seeming to make him be spiked) would also help. As you've probably noticed, however, we are in desparate need a videos. Anyone willing to post a few vids and provide links to them would be greatly appreciated (vids preferably using one character on one stage). Characters: [Bowser] Big Blue Lylat Cruise Skyworld [Captain Falcon] Big Blue Lylat Cruise Skyworld [Charizard] Big Blue Lylat Cruise Skyworld [Diddy Kong] Big Blue Lylat Cruise Skyworld [Donkey Kong] Big Blue Skyworld [Falco] Big Blue Lylat Cruise Skyworld [Fox] Big Blue Lylat Cruise Skyworld [Ganondorf] Big Blue Frigate Orpheon Lylat Cruise New Pork City (only on the leftmost edge) Skyworld Spear Pillar (Top 2 edges send him downwards and slightly behind kirby; bottom 2 edges cause something to interrupt a uthrow kirbycide) [Ice Climbers] Big Blue Lylat Cruise Skyworld [Ike] Big Blue Lylat Cruise Skyworld [Ivysaur] Big Blue Lylat Cruise Skyworld [Jigglypuff] Big Blue Lylat Cruise Skyworld [King Dedede] Big Blue Lylat Cruise Skyworld [Kirby] Big Blue Lylat Cruise Skyworld [Link] Big Blue Lylat Cruise Skyworld [Lucario] Big Blue(1:44-1:51) Frigate Orpheon Lylat Cruise New Pork City(:00-:37) Pirate Ship Pokemon Stadium 1 Skyworld (:50-1:40) Spear Pillar [Lucas] Big Blue Lylat Cruise Skyworld [Luigi] Big Blue Lylat Cruise Skyworld [Mario] Big Blue Lylat Cruise Skyworld [Marth] Big Blue Lylat Cruise Skyworld [Meta Knight] Big Blue Lylat Cruise Skyworld [Mr. Game&Watch] Big Blue Lylat Cruise Skyworld [Ness] Big Blue Lylat Cruise Skyworld [Olimar] Big Blue Lylat Cruise Skyworld [Peach] Big Blue Lylat Cruise Skyworld [Pikachu] Big Blue Lylat Cruise Skyworld [Pit] Big Blue Lylat Cruise Skyworld [R.O.B.] Big Blue Hyrule Temple (:11-1:00) Skyworld [Samus] Big Blue Lylat Cruise Skyworld [Sheik] Big Blue Lylat Cruise Skyworld [Snake] Big Blue Lylat Cruise Skyworld [Sonic] Big Blue Lylat Cruise Skyworld [Squirtle] Big Blue Lylat Cruise Skyworld [Toon Link] Big Blue Lylat Cruise Skyworld [Wario] Big Blue Lylat Cruise Skyworld [Wolf] Big Blue Lylat Cruise Skyworld [Yoshi] Big Blue Lylat Cruise Skyworld [Zelda] Big Blue Lylat Cruise Skyworld [Zero Suit Samus] Big Blue Frigate Orpheon Lylat Cruise New Pork City Pirate Ship Pokemon Stadium 1 Skyworld Spear Pillar (only works occasionally) Stages: [Big Blue] Bowser Captain Falcon Diddy Kong Donkey Kong Falco Fox Game & Watch Ganondorf Ice Climbers Ike Jigglypuff King Dedede Kirby Link Lucario (1:44-1:51) Lucas Luigi Mario Marth Meta Knight Ness Olimar Peach Pikachu Pit Pokemon Trainer ROB Samus Sheik Snake Sonic Toon Link Wario Wolf Yoshi Zelda Zero Suit Samus [Frigate Orpheon] Ganondorf Lucario Zero Suit Samus [Hyrule Temple] ROB (:11-1:00) [Lylat Cruise] Bowser Captain Falcon Charizard Diddy Kong Donkey Kong Falco Fox Ganondorf Ivysaur Ike King Dedede Kirby Link Lucario Luigi Mario Marth Meta Knight Mr. Game&Watch Olimar Pikachu Pit Peach Samus Snake Sonic Squirtle Toon Link Wario Wolf Yoshi Zelda Zero Suit Samus [New Pork City] Ganondorf Lucario (:00-:37) Zero Suit Samus [Pirate Ship] Lucario (only on the head of the King of Red Lions, when it's rising) Zero Suit Samus (only on the head of the King of Red Lions, when it's rising) [Pokemon Stadium 1] Lucario Zero Suit Samus [Skyworld] Bowser Captain Falcon Diddy Kong Donkey Kong Falco Fox Game & Watch Ganondorf Ice Climbers Ike Jigglypuff King Dedede Kirby Link Lucario (:50-1:40) Lucas Luigi Mario Marth Meta Knight Ness Olimar Peach Pikachu Pit Pokemon Trainer ROB Samus Sheik Snake Sonic Toon Link Wario Wolf Yoshi Zelda Zero Suit Samus [Spear Pillar] Ganondorf (top 2 edges send him down and to kirby's back; bottom 2 edges cause something to interrupt a uthrow kirbycide) Lucario (top 2 edges send him horizontally; bottom 2 edges cause something to interrupt a uthrow kirbycide) Zero Suit Samus (only works occasionally, testing should reveal why) (top 2 edges send her horizontally; bottom 2 edges cause something to interrupt a uthrow kirbycide) Other helper-people: Straked thrillagorilla BlazingKataKiri Update List: Last edited by A1lion835, 5:46 PM on May 04, 2009

#2 9:41 PM May 2 2009 2009
A1lion835 The Best Team Money Can Buy Joined: Nov 2008	Reserved for something.

#3 9:42 PM May 2 2009 2009
A1lion835 The Best Team Money Can Buy Joined: Nov 2008	Also reserved for something.

#4 9:42 PM May 2 2009 2009
A1lion835 The Best Team Money Can Buy Joined: Nov 2008	Reserved for something again.

#5 12:36 AM May 3 2009 2009
thrillagorilla Friendly Joined: Mar 2009	Lol, A1. I'm on here too ya know, I just rarely have anything to say... Why so many reserved slots?

#6 12:51 AM May 3 2009 2009
A04 Joined: Mar 2009	Quote (originally posted by thrillagorilla): Lol, A1. I'm on here too ya know, I just rarely have anything to say... Why so many reserved slots? you surprised meh! And it makes me feel more important. Edit: I keep forgetting which account I'm on >.>

#7 3:03 PM May 3 2009 2009
Ace_Brawler Baller Joined: Jan 2009	I cant do it on lylat cruise with people who I should be able to do it with. Is there a set distance? I've tried numerous amounts of distances.

#8 7:28 PM May 3 2009 2009
A1lion835 The Best Team Money Can Buy Joined: Nov 2008	Quote (originally posted by Ace_Brawler): I cant do it on lylat cruise with people who I should be able to do it with. Is there a set distance? I've tried numerous amounts of distances.

#9 3:36 AM May 4 2009 2009
thrillagorilla Friendly Joined: Mar 2009	Quote (originally posted by Ace_Brawler): I cant do it on lylat cruise with people who I should be able to do it with. Is there a set distance? I've tried numerous amounts of distances. I didn't see an answer in your post, A1. Oh well. I origonally posted this on SWFs. Let me know if it doesn't work for you. I can send you a replay of most any character. There are three primary Ninja-Spike locations on Lylat that I have found/used; One in the Asteroid Belt, one heading into the planet atmosphere (Corneria or Aquas, don't know which it is. I think the former) and the big battle above venom. I'll go over what to look for really quickly if you want to test it out. I suggest using it on Fox. He's relatively easy to spike because you have a wide margin for error. 1. After warping into the Asteriod belt, you will see an Arwing flying about the ship. Position yourself on the right side of the stage, and wait for the arwing to destroy two asteroids. The ship will turn "downward", then "stop" to "pull back up" ( I say these things in parinthesies bacause it does nothing to the stage, it just LOOKS like that's what the stage is doing ). Right when it stops to pull up, use your u-throw. You should land as the stage is righting itself, causing the spike! 2. The ship should start on fire as you are heading into the atmosphere. Position yourself on the left side of the ship, and wait for the "fire" to dissipate. A split second after it does, u-throw. Spike #2 FTW! 3. This is the hardest of the three. Position yourself on the right side of the stage when the enemy ships start to fire back. Wait for a ship to get lazered into oblivion. Right when it starts to blow up, u-throw. If you can't get the timing down, try it on slow brawl w/ fixed camera. You can see the tilt as it is happening, and plan accordingly. I'm sure there are more places then this. As pretty as Lylat is to look at, though, I don't want to spend hours exhausting every possibility. See what works for you Edit: I just realized I may not have even answered your question, lol. Sorry about that. Some characters are much harder to spike than others. Who are you having trouble with?

#10 2:24 PM May 4 2009 2009
t1mmy Big Shot Joined: Mar 2007	You really should take the part out of my quote that you put in red: Quote: New things are found in-person, not on a forum. If you meant to say new things are spammed in multiple threads on Smashboards more than here, then yes they are. Jester Kirby: I meant the B-throw against the tree trunk that stage spikes. So, it's different than this one.-this will make no sense unless you read the thread To everyone: It's just surplurfurous quoting. :D

#11 5:42 PM May 4 2009 2009
A1lion835 The Best Team Money Can Buy Joined: Nov 2008	Quote (originally posted by A1lion835): no post ._. I definitely posted something there, I dunno happened.[/quote] <----that /quote keeps appearing in my post even when I erase it Quote (originally posted by t1mmy): You really should take the part out of my quote that you put in red: It's just surplurfurous quoting. :D Okay.

#12 4:53 PM May 5 2009 2009
Ace_Brawler Baller Joined: Jan 2009	Quote (originally posted by thrillagorilla): I didn't see an answer in your post, A1. Oh well. I origonally posted this on SWFs. Let me know if it doesn't work for you. I can send you a replay of most any character. There are three primary Ninja-Spike locations on Lylat that I have found/used; One in the Asteroid Belt, one heading into the planet atmosphere (Corneria or Aquas, don't know which it is. I think the former) and the big battle above venom. I'll go over what to look for really quickly if you want to test it out. I suggest using it on Fox. He's relatively easy to spike because you have a wide margin for error. 1. After warping into the Asteriod belt, you will see an Arwing flying about the ship. Position yourself on the right side of the stage, and wait for the arwing to destroy two asteroids. The ship will turn "downward", then "stop" to "pull back up" ( I say these things in parinthesies bacause it does nothing to the stage, it just LOOKS like that's what the stage is doing ). Right when it stops to pull up, use your u-throw. You should land as the stage is righting itself, causing the spike! 2. The ship should start on fire as you are heading into the atmosphere. Position yourself on the left side of the ship, and wait for the "fire" to dissipate. A split second after it does, u-throw. Spike #2 FTW! 3. This is the hardest of the three. Position yourself on the right side of the stage when the enemy ships start to fire back. Wait for a ship to get lazered into oblivion. Right when it starts to blow up, u-throw. If you can't get the timing down, try it on slow brawl w/ fixed camera. You can see the tilt as it is happening, and plan accordingly. I'm sure there are more places then this. As pretty as Lylat is to look at, though, I don't want to spend hours exhausting every possibility. See what works for you Edit: I just realized I may not have even answered your question, lol. Sorry about that. Some characters are much harder to spike than others. Who are you having trouble with? Thanks! that was almost exactly what I wanted but I didn't know how to ask the question. One thing though, Is kirby supposed to be on the very edge when he grabs his opponent? or is it just a little step forward of that? Click here to level up my card! Click here to level up my card!

#13 8:57 PM May 5 2009 2009
thrillagorilla Friendly Joined: Mar 2009	Quote (originally posted by Ace_Brawler): Thanks! that was almost exactly what I wanted but I didn't know how to ask the question. One thing though, Is kirby supposed to be on the very edge when he grabs his opponent? or is it just a little step forward of that? The edge is where I've had the best luck. I don't have the frame by frame hack, so I'm not honestly not sure if being a step is in required for some of the more difficult characters to spike. Edit: Glad I could help. :-)

#14 8:59 PM May 6 2009 2009
A1lion835 The Best Team Money Can Buy Joined: Nov 2008	We haven't updated since April 21st. We needz moar dataz.

#15 12:20 AM May 7 2009 2009
sirkibble2 Friendly Joined: Aug 2008	I don't have time to collect it unfortunately. I wish I could help.

#16 10:31 PM Jun 14 2009 2009
Ragnaroksai6 Baller Joined: Jun 2009	wow i never knew. i always thought that culda been a spike. ill do some testing if its rly needed.....im rly bored here anyways lol Edit btw i make videos so im gonna start postin kirby moves, AT's and such and id be glad to help anybody out here ^_^ Last edited by t1mmy, 4:38 PM on Jun 15, 2009

#17 4:23 PM Jun 19 2009 2009
PL47 Joined: May 2009	This is just great.

#18 1:57 PM Jul 11 2009 2009
Tomato Kirby Joined: Aug 2008	Kirby Glitch on Frigate Orpheon? ...and here I thought it was all a chance coincidence. Wow, I missed a LOT while I was away. Who came up with the idea to start mass-testing ninja-spikes? Anyway, maybe we can King Dedede to Frigate Orpheon?

#19 2:01 PM Jul 11 2009 2009
PSS Joined: Apr 2009	Let me get this straight, this thread is for posting videos of characters in Brawl spiking other characters?

#20 11:21 PM Sep 16 2009 2009
A1lion835 The Best Team Money Can Buy Joined: Nov 2008	ZOMG! I was playing my friend's snake earlier today (on wifi). I got really tired of playing it, but didn't say anything. Then, in one game on PS1, I ninja spiked him (it has been tested, and NEVER worked before). It was on the water part of the stage, under the windmill. I was losing pretty badly, so I just wanted to uthrow kirbycide. I tried once, failed, then regrabbed him a few seconds later and NS spiked him (it ended very epicly as he cyphered, got caught under the ledge and tried to drop a c4, but strapped it onto me and died). There are 3 ways I think this could've happened: 1. Wifi. 2. Windmill. 3. The most interesting. Did an input one of us made change the trajectory of the uthrow? It happened around 7:00 on the timer, so I played out the rest of the match until I decided to kill myself with 5:06 on the timer when it would've ended soon afterwards (but I got the replay).

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