Banning Planking - Very crappy rule.

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#101
10:45 PM Jun 4 2009 2009
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Quote (originally posted by leatherhead93):
Would sonic be effective? He's so fast that its hard to predict when he's going to run. Then you can try a double bair stage spike. If they dont hit then use the homing attack then spring to safety.
It would be safe for both players.  Sonic can't really do anything and spring would be too predictable he couldn't hit with it.
#102
10:55 PM Jun 4 2009 2009
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Hence why I stopped arguing with you, falln. Arguing gets boring when you're arguing for something that doesn't even affect you, nor do I plank a lot (I do against the idiots that can't wait for me to get back up or when I'm bored, but it's never any longer than 20 seconds). ~_~
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#103
11:29 PM Jun 4 2009 2009
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Planking's already limited in most places, this thread was pretty much made because someone thought it was stupid.
#104
11:31 PM Jun 4 2009 2009
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Quote (originally posted by leatherhead93):
Would sonic be effective? He's so fast that its hard to predict when he's going to run. Then you can try a double bair stage spike. If they dont hit then use the homing attack then spring to safety.
 

Well, if you're camping on the edge as MK, Sonic is most likely going to run towards your edge at one point or another >_>' Then when he tries to go off the edge, you ledge drop U-air, double jump, and 

Also, if you "double[jump?] B-air stage spike" and miss, that leaves you without the ability to side-B> double jump > spring, and Sonic is significantly easier to gimp if he doesn't have double jumps. anyway, trying to HA when the opponent is in clear control of invincibility frames is really dangerous since it doesn't lock on people's invinciblity frames, and, below the stage, can cause you to drop too low for spring to let you recover.

You're better off trying to P-shield > edgehog, and I'm not even sure if that's a viable move.

Quote (originally posted by falln):
I'm not Terios, but the fact that the homing stall is still being considered is really sad. All you need to do is double jump and Sonic's Homing Attack won't register, causing him to suicide. If your character doesn't have a good enough double jump, you can just use a nearby platform (and FD's stage size is large enough for pretty  much any double jump + up special to work).

It's not like I've done extensive data gathering or anything for Sonic, but if Homing Attack simply rises into a ceiling while it charges, target or not (it's easier to do if you don't cancel the HA's charge), it causes Sonic to follow the ceiling upon release. And without a target, Sonic will bounce off the ceiling and move straight horizontally in the direction he's facing.  And if there's a target in range, then he'll bounce "uncontrollably" (well, predictably) left and right as long as the target is in range. Not like the person being targeted can exploit it and force him closer to the edge of the level for a stage spike or anything like that.


But yeah, I don't really know anything about Sonic, so you can correct me if I'm wrong about any of that.  



... you might also want to try it out yourself first.

But seriously, read past the sarcasm and we're still at the same point: Homing Stall isn't exactly a stall because you can kill Sonic out of it. Not necessarily in the way that you described, but in another way, lol. 
#105
11:46 PM Jun 4 2009 2009
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Even if Planking is limited to x grabs, you can still do it to a significant degree when needed. As long as rules exist, there will be loopholes to exploit them.
#106
12:09 AM Jun 5 2009 2009
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Quote (originally posted by Poltergust):
falln, I'm done with this argument. Saying "Yes, Egg Toss can hit him!" and "No, Egg Toss cannot hit him!" is not going to get us anywhere. Let's just agree to disagree. =_=

And Krystedez, it really is your fault for getting grabbed. =P
Use Wolf. I can't fight that stupid guy...


PRiDE had the same argument.  You know, the Yoshi player who took a game off of Azen?  (2 stock!)

So, we decided to do a 99 stock match.  ALLL planking.  He quit when I was winning 97-71 (remaining)

I suicided 2ce.  >_> 
#107
12:19 AM Jun 5 2009 2009
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Uh... Yoshi can't plank...
#108
1:16 AM Jun 5 2009 2009
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yoshi can plank somewhat effectively for like 5 seconds

ban planking
#109
1:16 AM Jun 5 2009 2009
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Quote (originally posted by Poltergust):
Uh... Yoshi can't plank...
He means he (Meta-Knight) was planking while PRiDE (Yoshi) was pitching eggs at him.
Bomp.
#110
1:18 AM Jun 5 2009 2009
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Ah, I see.

Weird. How did he go about trying to stop your planking?
#111
1:11 PM Jun 7 2009 2009
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Quote (originally posted by cutter):
Even if Planking is limited to x grabs, you can still do it to a significant degree when needed. As long as rules exist, there will be loopholes to exploit them.

Well some restrctions are better than none. Would you prefer infinite planking or planking for 10 seconds of a match?
#112
2:19 PM Jun 7 2009 2009
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Quote (originally posted by Poltergust):
Ah, I see.

Weird. How did he go about trying to stop your planking?
He tried pretty much everything,  He didn't even get close.
#113
8:44 PM Jun 7 2009 2009
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Planking is annoying as hell, but it's good to punish people who use it. Players use it for survival, because if they don't, they will get planked instead. It's probably not worth banning, given all the recovery time you've got in the world, but if it was fixed in the next Smash (i.e. single digits of invincibility frames upon hitting the ledge), it would be fine.
#114
9:11 PM Jun 7 2009 2009
dmbrandon
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Quote (originally posted by Durango):
Planking is annoying as hell, but it's good to punish people who use it. Players use it for survival, because if they don't, they will get planked instead. It's probably not worth banning, given all the recovery time you've got in the world, but if it was fixed in the next Smash (i.e. single digits of invincibility frames upon hitting the ledge), it would be fine.
Brawl MM.  planking on. you get 3 stock, I get one.  No timer.  100$?
#115
10:07 PM Jun 7 2009 2009
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No thanks.
#116
11:09 PM Jun 7 2009 2009
dmbrandon
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Why not? It's easy to overcome.
#117
11:26 PM Jun 7 2009 2009
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I'm not interested.
#118
11:36 PM Jun 7 2009 2009
dmbrandon
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We should institute a money rule for the competitive forum. You must make X amount of dollars playing brawl a year, or be willing to bet money to prove your opinions.
#119
11:53 PM Jun 7 2009 2009
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Quote (originally posted by dmbrandon):
He tried pretty much everything,  He didn't even get close.


That is quite strange... icon_eh
#120
1:02 AM Jun 8 2009 2009
falln
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Quote (originally posted by dmbrandon):
We should institute a money rule for the competitive forum. You must make X amount of dollars playing brawl a year, or be willing to bet money to prove your opinions.


Or you need a certain amount of badges underneath your avatar pic so you have more self esteem when you post =)
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