I wanna see what happens if Diem moves to socal and starts rapeplanking every1. He'll become some god. Lol.

Even though you're a Troll, you've made an excellent point.

His trolling posts are still more valid and qualified than anything you say.

Calling a mindgame is definitely stupid.  Nothing about planking makes it anything like a mindgame.

If you are someone who is being planked, and don't have a move to take care of it (Snake), you have no options.  You -can't- just wait, or you lose.  No one with an ounce of intelligence has ever proposed that you wait it out.  You can hypothetically attempt to approach, but the point of planking is that you -can't- approach without being damaged or gimped.

In these debates, I have never seen someone for planking, ever propose an argument deeper than "You can't ban it.  It doesn't meet banning requirements."  Nor have I ever seen one of them propose a logical strategy that can handle planking.

In reality, planking doesn't force approaches at all.  If a match starts, on FD, and the Meta immediately runs back to the ledge and begins planking, no matter who his opponent is, they are not forced to approach.  At a disadvantage, or at an advantage, the person being planked never has to approach because of the planking.  The "strategy" itself is entirely unbeatable at any point in the game, by most characters.  Indeed, the only reason people do approach is because they know that it's better to die in a blaze of glory, than to just wait out the eight minutes.

Honestly, without the time limit, would people still infini-plank?

You are rught, which is why we shud ban this.
and correct me if im wrong, did you put that snake can't stop planking?

Usmash,nades,C4,remote missile,

No, I think he worded that wrong.  Snake is one of the few who do have a way to handle planking.  The rest of his post is valid though.

I might be wrong, but I think Samus can plank well. Uair is ok, and Fair has great reach.
Zair is an instant ledge grab, which stops a lot of moves that require you to be slightly above the ledge.
Side B forces an approach on all neutrals.

Not MK planking quality, but I think she is definately above average.

Thats great Nails. Shes so good were gonna ban planking just for her.

Yes we are.  Finally someone understands how i feel...

check out my blog on how good samus really is: http://allisbrawl.com/blogpost.aspx?id=23784

In other news... quite a few characters can launch projectiles from the edge to create more pressure (pit), but their air game and recovery are not up to par with meta.  However, this kind of planking actually forces an approach (or if ur really stubborn you can sit there and PS pit's arrows for 8 minutes ...) Planking exists outside of metaknight, but typically it's just used to get some space and get back up onto the stage, and isn't game changing.

dude pit's planking sucks, it just gets him whomped

Planking is completely stupid. But it is legit.

You break no rules, and it's being strategic. It is not over centralizing because not everyone and their mother is planking. It is not "you either plank or you lose".

Honestly, have any of you seen DaPuffter's match against Plank? You don't even really need the ledge to plank. So how would you ban it?

Most TO's already limit it to 50-60 ledge grabs but you can "Air plank".

Planking is also not "unbeatable" it just puts the planker at a superior advantage, especially if you are like Falco and have nothing to reliably stop the planker.

Exactly.  Pit has a plank game, but it's no-where near as threatening as metaknight's.  This thread is prettymuch soley directed at MK.

Planking on MM, 500$?

If you plank, you must give the other player money.
Problem solved.

every ledge grab = 5 bucks

Man, Falco and PEach mainers are going to be pretty broke soon then

I think its kinda cheap to run out the time with planking, but look at it from a larger perspective. Example, lets look at the NFL. You are up 24 to 20 and there is only a couple minutes left in the game, and you have the ball. What do you do? If you have any interest in winning you run the clock out as much as you can by running the ball, and take your time at the line.  Why? because you want to win.

Okay, so lets look at smash. Less than a minute left on the clock, and the fight is really close. You can continue to fight it out and you might win... Or you can plank and stall out the rest of the timer and you will win. Really it all depends on how competitive you are, and if there is money involved.  So lets ask ourselves the question again.  Why do players resort to planking?  Because they want to win.  Now you can develop methods to deal with it, or accept defeat.  It's your choice.

Complaining about an issue such as this will not make it go away, because there is ways around it. Now if this was an argument about metaknight's infinite cape, you would find alot more support for this issue.  This is a technique that has no loop holes, no way around it except the metaknight mistimes his button sequence.  Planking has loop holes, you need to figure out what to do.  Thats why you have friends/siblings to practice against.  In the unfortunate case you cannot find anything, then you may want to pick up a character that can. (example Snake)  So what is the issue again? 

Replace the "less than a minute on the clock" with "as soon as you get a percentage lead."



What can Snake do against planking?

Wow just wow.