Techniques without grabbing.

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#1
5:02 AM Jul 4 2010 2010
thefatninja
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Techniques without grabbing.
Hey guys, i was wondering what you do if you can't seem to get that grab.             
 

What i usually do is iceblock spam to the tornado to freeze then try to grab from there or smash.

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#2
5:21 AM Jul 4 2010 2010
-LzR-
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Desynched Blizzard is pretty cool.
Quote (originally posted by xzx):
I thought you knew better. You're a MK main after all. I know more about MK than you, lol. SL actually gives that knockback, you can't DI upwards. It gives that gay knockback. Have you ever got hit by that? In that case, the Wario couldn't DI, because it gives that kind of knockback. Facepalm at you, -LzR-.
#3
1:08 PM Jul 4 2010 2010
xzx
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Desynched blizzard, desynched squall hammer, ice shot spam and more.
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Quote (originally posted by -LzR-):
SL kills at around 130%, if talking about lightweights.
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10:46 PM Jul 4 2010 2010
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I think desynching in most matchups is a bad idea, though most other ICs disagree. When you can't get the grab, just play patiently, use your spacing tools, and wait for the openings. Most people are so afraid of getting grabbed, they eventually leave themselves open for kill moves, so fret not.
#5
12:16 AM Jul 5 2010 2010
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If your opponent knows how to avoid grabs really well and you don't know IC's other moves well, you're screwed.  Aside from CGs, it's important to get your opponent up in the air, and juggle using Uair.  This can be done several ways; some examples are carefully timed DAs, Utilts, Usmash, and the possibilities are endless with desynching factored in.  It is, of course, important to mix these up and react to you opponent, or else you WILL get punished.  While you're doing this, you need to read your opponent for opportunities to CG, of course.
#6
2:11 PM Jul 5 2010 2010
Tarextherex
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ICs have overall a pretty good and balanced moveset, especially blizzard, which is a great move. Try working on your desynchs, IMO it's an aspect of ICs that need to be worked more, since it does makes a difference in some bad ICs matchups(watch Kakera vids to see how), and while CG is pretty broken, people know pretty well how to not get grabbed now. And yeah desynchs can make you have more opportunities to get the grab.
#7
4:41 AM Jul 9 2010 2010
thefatninja
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What about fighting a projectilist?
#8
4:57 PM Jul 9 2010 2010
Groose
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Edit: nvm
Last edited by Groose, 8:34 PM on Jul 09, 2010
#9
5:14 PM Jul 9 2010 2010
Eternal Mangekyo Zebra
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ICs actually do well against projectile users. Falco comes to mind.
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