Project M Demo Release

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#101
5:55 PM Feb 9 2011 2011
Darknid
Got Lucky
Joined: Jan 2009
Darknid impressed a staff member by doing something smart.

Quote (originally posted by Foot Soldier):
Wavedashing was intentional, Sakurai just didn't foresee it being used in the way it was.


Then it wasn't intentional. It was clearly an accident that they decided not to fix.
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#102
6:41 PM Feb 9 2011 2011
fLoWW The Wifi Wolf
Best on My Block
Joined: Oct 2010

Played it, its great, I feel like it could still use some work.
#103
9:02 PM Feb 9 2011 2011
Abe
Way Too Good
Joined: Jul 2009

Quote (originally posted by t0mmy):
I mentioned this in the staff group before it was posted, and it was not changed, so I will add it here.
Sakurai did not say wavedashing was intentional. Fallacy.
It was intentionally left out of Brawl.

And just to let everyone know, it was not shown to be in the debug. "Landfallspecial" was the animation used for the free fall animation... not some construed notion of a special falling on the ground that caused a wavedash.



dude are u on crack? melee put the air dodge just to AIRDOGE, melee players found the wavedash, smash 64 didnt have any airdodge at all, thats why they put it on melee, they prob wanted to do it like brawl airdodge, but sakurai prob wanted to be able to move to the opposite direction with it, so melee ppl tried something and wavedash came out or something, and sakurai hit the lottery cuz it got famous

melee is trash overall
#104
9:35 PM Feb 9 2011 2011
Desmond
Scavenger
Joined: Apr 2010

Quote (originally posted by MeroKnight):
melee is trash overall
I agree.
#105
10:03 PM Feb 9 2011 2011
Miles of SmashWiki
Smash PhD
Joined: Mar 2009
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Not my cup of tea, but a tremendously interesting project. Congrats on the demo!
#106
10:52 PM Feb 9 2011 2011
Masky
The Very Best
Joined: Apr 2009
Masky is connected in the Six Degrees of Smash web.

Quote (originally posted by Iktomi):
Hehe I just don't understand why people think that playing this = supporting hate of Brawl. You can like Melee, Brawl, and this game for what they are...


Probably because the descriptions of Project M written by its own creators implies that Brawl is inferior to Melee. And I've read posts by the creators on SWF talking about how much they hate Brawl (for extremely shallow reasons). The description on AiB isn't as bad, there are worse ones on other sites

From another site: "Project M is a community-made mod of Brawl inspired by Super Smash Bros. Melee's gameplay designed to add rich, technical gameplay to a balanced cast of characters while additionally enhancing the speed of play. Project M employs new codes which seamlessly add in new, universal features to the entire cast to add technical variety to all characters."
#107
11:09 PM Feb 9 2011 2011
hotdogturtle
Grandmaster
Joined: Mar 2008
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Quote (originally posted by Masky):
Probably because the descriptions of Project M written by its own creators implies that Brawl is inferior to Melee. And I've read posts by the creators on SWF talking about how much they hate Brawl (for extremely shallow reasons). The description on AiB isn't as bad, there are worse ones on other sites

From another site: "Project M is a community-made mod of Brawl inspired by Super Smash Bros. Melee's gameplay designed to add rich, technical gameplay to a balanced cast of characters while additionally enhancing the speed of play. Project M employs new codes which seamlessly add in new, universal features to the entire cast to add technical variety to all characters."

That's from the official website.
#108
11:20 PM Feb 9 2011 2011
Brock
War is Over
Joined: Aug 2010

no mods needed?
... do i still load through gecko anyway?
#109
11:29 PM Feb 9 2011 2011
RyeJew
Baller
Joined: Aug 2009

Pichu9001 wrote at 3:32 PM on Feb 8, 2011 :
Yes! Godmod Jigglypuff is back bebeh!
smd
#110
12:10 AM Feb 10 2011 2011
Foot Soldier
Sage
Joined: May 2008
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Quote (originally posted by t0mmy):
I read that interview, and I think your interpretation of it may differ from mine. When someone says they "notice" something in "development" it's a far cry to say they "developed" it with "notice".

Hello, salty Melee elitist, I am t0mmy. Nice to meet you.
I'm not saying he succeeded. Brawl has it's flaws, and so did Melee. Sakurai has gone on record though saying that he didn't want Brawl to be competitive. Melee is definitely more technical and competitive, which makes it a better fighting game. Brawl is easy to get into and play well, which makes it a better party game.
#111
12:19 AM Feb 10 2011 2011
SVK Skyviper
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Why's everybody getting @ each other over this topic? You're debating like it's politics. Project M is a hack for Brawl, solely used to create a "new" game engine which players could enjoy. Yeah the creators have horrible attitudes, but not once do they imply negative aspects towards brawl.


That's like me saying "I wish Metroid Prime 3 played more like Metroid Prime 2. Metroid Prime 2 was overall a better game because it had *insert reason(s)*" that doesn't mean I hate or disregard the other game. Who says you can't be fans of both games and even pick a favorite out of the two?


Now all this other whining over wavedashing and game mechanics...it's just a game, it's going to be broken regardless. Just because you want something to change doesn't mean the creators will do it; you aren't Daigo >_>
~A Legend never dies


Hamek: If you want to troll on aib. Just tell people they're stupid when they do stupid things.
#112
12:57 AM Feb 10 2011 2011
Fordo
War is Over
Joined: Dec 2010

ffff... I have an SDHC and it won`t let me download for it icon_sad
#113
1:43 AM Feb 10 2011 2011
Masky
The Very Best
Joined: Apr 2009
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Quote (originally posted by Foot Soldier):
I'm not saying he succeeded. Brawl has it's flaws, and so did Melee. Sakurai has gone on record though saying that he didn't want Brawl to be competitive. Melee is definitely more technical and competitive, which makes it a better fighting game. Brawl is easy to get into and play well, which makes it a better party game.


I hope you're trolling... for your own sake. Though I know many people think this way -_-
#114
5:05 AM Feb 10 2011 2011
koohm
Rookie
Joined: Aug 2010
koohm helped an All is Brawl member with a problem.

maybe its b/c i got too used to playing link in brawl, but he seems majorly overpowered, even by melee standards @_@
looks like he can only reach top tier in hacks haha
#115
1:09 PM Feb 10 2011 2011
Cider
Friendly
Joined: Feb 2011

Quote (originally posted by shadow1):
played it, sucks


Mai Boi, this Project M is what all true warriors strive for.
#116
3:58 PM Feb 10 2011 2011
Tera Twin
Joined: Feb 2011

Quote (originally posted by koohm):
maybe its b/c i got too used to playing link in brawl, but he seems majorly overpowered, even by melee standards @_@
looks like he can only reach top tier in hacks haha


PMBR indeed buffed Link up. Not a bad thing imo
#117
4:31 PM Feb 10 2011 2011
Shadic
Joined: Feb 2009

Quote (originally posted by Zero Heart):
Yeah the creators have horrible attitudes, but not once do they imply negative aspects towards brawl.

Pardon?
Quote (originally posted by ford6000):
ffff... I have an SDHC and it won`t let me download for it icon_sad

It works with Riivolution.
Quote (originally posted by Miles of SmashWiki):
Not my cup of tea, but a tremendously interesting project. Congrats on the demo!

Thanks! It's nice to see somebody who can appreciate the time and effort, even if it's not up their alley. icon_smile
Quote (originally posted by Floww168):
Played it, its great, I feel like it could still use some work.

What in particular? There's a lot of things we're obviously still working on, but maybe you've figured out something that we have not.
Quote (originally posted by Darknid):
**** project M

Anything in particular you dislike about it? I'm curious if you've tried it.
Quote (originally posted by Brock):
no mods needed?
... do i still load through gecko anyway?

The "No-mod" Method takes advantage of the Stacksmash glitch in Custom Stages, and loads GeckoOS that way. So you can do it on a system that is unmodded before and after playing Project M, but the loading process does indeed use Gecko.


And as the primary Link dev, he's definitely not broken. He's better than his Melee self in a lot of ways, but he's certainly not broken. I can't wait to see everything he can do if we manage to figure out tethering.

And if you don't like Melee, you still may enjoy Project M. What is it going to do, take 15 minutes of your time?
Last edited by Shadic, 7:49 PM on Feb 10, 2011
#118
9:37 PM Feb 10 2011 2011
Captain_Geo
Joined: Jan 2010

At long last.

My love has come along.
#119
10:17 PM Feb 10 2011 2011
Porygon2King - Akarui Hoshi
Too Good
Joined: Apr 2009

EDIT: Nvm this post.
#120
11:45 PM Feb 10 2011 2011
Jaydubbs
Joined: Oct 2008

Just because Sakurai noticed wavedashing in development doesnt mean it was intentional. I mean, i'm all for it coming back and whatnot, thats just not the reason. Just like how everyone says L-canceling was intentional and it was in the manual even. I've looked for it in the manual. couldnt find it. Someone please point me to the page where it tell you how to do it.
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