E3 2012 Preview and Discussion - Post-mortem

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#341
9:21 PM Jun 12 2012 2012
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The problem with Miyamoto, and by extension Nintendo, is that he doesn't think realistically. I love and admire the guy, but he's really out of it when it comes to practicality.

In an interview with IGN,

"...when asked about the option of including a second Circle Pad in future 3DS models, Miyamoto pointed out the system's gyroscope as a way to accommodate that need."


What the ****? Is he retarded that's the stupidest thing I've ever heard.

This is my thinking: Traditional - Deliberate Motion - Tilt controls. You may only pick Motion/Traditional and Motion/Tilt.

You simply can't effectively use traditional controls and tilt controls simultaneously. It doesn't work in LittleBigPlanet (SACKBOY LOOK UP YOU IDIOT) and it doesn't work in Mario Kart 7. You can have deliberate motions and tilting work together, and traditional and motion. Not all three.

It can't be done! And for Miyamoto to say that gyroscopes can replace sticks..!
#342
10:31 PM Jun 12 2012 2012
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Quote (originally posted by Fenn):
Rear-view camera. Just lift the controller into your peripheral vision. But yeah, I really hope it doesn't become forced like waggle-controls.


What. Are you nuts, why would anyone want to see what's behind you on a racing game like F-Zero.
As I said, you gotta keep your eyes on the screen at all times. and the game already has a HUD that tells you where the machines that are behind you are approaching you from.


On an unrelated note it seems ZombiU was at one point Killer Freaks from outer space.


Quote (originally posted by Detective Dizzy):
You Americans get so much done when PSN is down.


Quote (originally posted by Volke Aeno):
Fand, if you're gonna be a demon with no experience you have to start somewhere.
They don't pay you 7 figure wages of power at the entry level jobs.


Quote (originally posted by Volke Aeno):
Anyway, [Unreadable Name of Frog] eats Unknown Hedgehog. The end.
I wish.


Quote (originally posted by Volke Aeno):
You made 4 random chance typos at once.


#343
11:34 PM Jun 12 2012 2012
ritsu luv
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f-zero and mario kart are literally the only racing games in the world where you need to focus on making a perfect run over where people are behind you


mario kart
perfect run


also pikmin 2

swoon
#344
11:53 PM Jun 12 2012 2012
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Quote (originally posted by brawl is best game ever):
f-zero and mario kart are literally the only racing games in the world where you need to focus on making a perfect run over where people are behind you


F-Zero has the HUD thing. It works just fine. There's no need to show you exactly where the cars are behind you.


Also I went yesterday to buy Pikmin 2 on Wii and they didn't have it.


:CCc


Quote (originally posted by Detective Dizzy):
You Americans get so much done when PSN is down.


Quote (originally posted by Volke Aeno):
Fand, if you're gonna be a demon with no experience you have to start somewhere.
They don't pay you 7 figure wages of power at the entry level jobs.


Quote (originally posted by Volke Aeno):
Anyway, [Unreadable Name of Frog] eats Unknown Hedgehog. The end.
I wish.


Quote (originally posted by Volke Aeno):
You made 4 random chance typos at once.


#345
9:15 PM Jun 13 2012 2012
Fenn
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Quote (originally posted by brawl is best game ever):
f-zero and mario kart are is literally the only racing games in the world where you need to focus on making a perfect run over where people are behind you


Fixed for ya. Checking behind you is ridiculously important in Mario Kart. But that's for a different board.


And yes, ZombiU was KFfOS. They changed it midway into production.
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#346
5:55 PM Jun 14 2012 2012
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But is it more important than not making a corner correctly or drifting properly?

Pikmin 2 has me worried. I never really thought about it, but what made Pikmin 1 so great was that you were constantly worried about the day limit. It made you have to strategize. It was made short, but I dunno, a 60 day limit in 2 would be great if treasures were scattered accordingly.

In this one, it feels like Harvest Moon after you've started farming efficiently. You do a few chores and then you realize that it's just a liiiiiiiiiittle too late into the game and you say **** it and go to bed.
#347
6:03 PM Jun 14 2012 2012
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Well you could always make a self imposed challenge, but that'd be stupid. 

Plus there's no way to force an end of day even with if you time yourself.


Quote (originally posted by Detective Dizzy):
You Americans get so much done when PSN is down.


Quote (originally posted by Volke Aeno):
Fand, if you're gonna be a demon with no experience you have to start somewhere.
They don't pay you 7 figure wages of power at the entry level jobs.


Quote (originally posted by Volke Aeno):
Anyway, [Unreadable Name of Frog] eats Unknown Hedgehog. The end.
I wish.


Quote (originally posted by Volke Aeno):
You made 4 random chance typos at once.


#348
6:05 PM Jun 14 2012 2012
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You can force an end of day. You press plus and hit Go to End of Day haha
#349
6:11 PM Jun 14 2012 2012
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Oh I didn't know you could do that too in Pikmin 2.


Ahhg I want to get it. But somehow Gamestop didn't have it despite it coming out the day before.


Quote (originally posted by Detective Dizzy):
You Americans get so much done when PSN is down.


Quote (originally posted by Volke Aeno):
Fand, if you're gonna be a demon with no experience you have to start somewhere.
They don't pay you 7 figure wages of power at the entry level jobs.


Quote (originally posted by Volke Aeno):
Anyway, [Unreadable Name of Frog] eats Unknown Hedgehog. The end.
I wish.


Quote (originally posted by Volke Aeno):
You made 4 random chance typos at once.


#350
6:16 PM Jun 14 2012 2012
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yeah it's not going to sell fabulously and as such won't get the opportunity to

chicken or the egg????

hahahahahah @ buying it tho
#351
6:19 PM Jun 14 2012 2012
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Well I haven't played Pikmin 2 and this is my chance to get it easily.

This is happening.


Quote (originally posted by Detective Dizzy):
You Americans get so much done when PSN is down.


Quote (originally posted by Volke Aeno):
Fand, if you're gonna be a demon with no experience you have to start somewhere.
They don't pay you 7 figure wages of power at the entry level jobs.


Quote (originally posted by Volke Aeno):
Anyway, [Unreadable Name of Frog] eats Unknown Hedgehog. The end.
I wish.


Quote (originally posted by Volke Aeno):
You made 4 random chance typos at once.


#352
6:22 PM Jun 14 2012 2012
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#353
1:45 AM Jun 15 2012 2012
Brim
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Nintendo wants the Wii U to take over your TV

Some pretty cool features in there in my opinion, if some are simple.
#354
8:02 AM Jun 15 2012 2012
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MTV couldn't have figured out that the GamePad's TV function is used as a remote by themselves? wtf lol
#355
11:50 AM Jun 15 2012 2012
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Quote (originally posted by brawl is best game ever):
MTV couldn't have figured out that the GamePad's TV function is used as a remote by themselves? wtf lol

Well, it is MTV we're talking about...
Still pretty cool sounding features.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=csqkJyqG_so Watch me!<<<:::::::
#356
3:38 PM Jun 15 2012 2012
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yeah I'm hugely against 'look you can do everything with this product' things

The TV remote won't work as well as the regular TV remote.
The music player won't be as practical as a phone or CD player.
The YouTube, HBO Go, etc. apps won't work as well as they do on a computer.
Why would you even use the Internet browser.

am I the only one who uses gaming consoles specifically for gaming? well I use my PS3 for netflix but
#357
6:05 PM Jun 15 2012 2012
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Quote (originally posted by brawl is best game ever):
yeah I'm hugely against 'look you can do everything with this product' things

The TV remote won't work as well as the regular TV remote.
The music player won't be as practical as a phone or CD player.
The YouTube, HBO Go, etc. apps won't work as well as they do on a computer.
Why would you even use the Internet browser.

am I the only one who uses gaming consoles specifically for gaming? well I use my PS3 for netflix but

heh, I'm not against it, but i don't think the majority of it is very practical, but just cause something isn't practical doesn't mean it isn't cool
"well I use my PS3 for netflix"
gosh
you hypocrite
/waits for sarcasm to set in
#358
12:27 AM Jun 16 2012 2012
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Quote (originally posted by brawl is best game ever):

am I the only one who uses gaming consoles specifically for gaming?


Hi.


Quote (originally posted by Detective Dizzy):
You Americans get so much done when PSN is down.


Quote (originally posted by Volke Aeno):
Fand, if you're gonna be a demon with no experience you have to start somewhere.
They don't pay you 7 figure wages of power at the entry level jobs.


Quote (originally posted by Volke Aeno):
Anyway, [Unreadable Name of Frog] eats Unknown Hedgehog. The end.
I wish.


Quote (originally posted by Volke Aeno):
You made 4 random chance typos at once.


#359
10:31 AM Jun 16 2012 2012
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Well I mean I enjoy watching Netflix on the tv compared to my phone or other device so I have to give Netflix's app a pass. Except on the 360, it's so awful.

And shut up fand you only own a system that exclusively allows you to play games unless you want to watch Nintendo Weekly huehiehuehie
#360
10:33 AM Jun 16 2012 2012
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With PC gaming progressing so fast, I think consoles should return to being "home arcade" systems instead of multimedia devices. Something that can deliver an experience that PC's can't right now, or at least that deliver it more conveniently and cheaply than PCs.

Which is pretty impossible, I suppose, considering your PC can do pretty much anything now. If I design a console during this era of gaming, I'm focusing on this:

- A very fast transition from "Power On" to the menu screen of my game. One thing about consoles I like is there's no waiting for my PC to boot up, enter password, and wait for the desktop to load and my virus scanner to run, then open Steam or my browser, load the game, and play. It's pop in disc, and press start. I'd also add a "quick play" power button that takes you straight to the game instead of the home screen.

- Impressive Local multiplayer support, from hardware and software. Seriously, consoles are the only form of gaming left that does not demand every player have a system and copy of the game to play. I'd really push this, because as wonderful as online multiplayer is, there is a special feeling that comes from having four people in the same room playing together, one that quite a few gamers have been missing lately.

- Strong online multiplayer security. PC games get the upper hand online, but hacking is a major issue. Being able to advertise a very strong security for games on your console will encourage people to try it.

- A large digital games library. XBLA and Virtual Console proved that people will pay for shorter or older game experiences for a cheaper price. With the focus on "arcade," gamers should have a speedy and easy way to find quick gaming fixes by dropping a few bucks on an arcade title, giving them something to do in between mega releases.

- Communication with the consumer. My console would feel like the hub of gaming. The Home page would be filled with the player's game information, not movie and music ads, as well as quick links to digital downloads, settings, friends, and other important pages, similar to the 3DS. There would be user-creater articles talking about gaming, both then and now, as well as game guides and other written pieces. The news page would display upcoming game releases, tournaments, "community playdates" a la the old 360 dashboard, and other big events.

- Personalized feedback. The above bullet point would be adjusted based on the player's likes and dislikes. The system would use both the player's library and an optional, occasional survey to determine his or her favorite genres and activites, and suggest games, articles, and events accordingly.
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