Meta Knight Ban - Should it be?

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#1861
4:44 AM Jul 21 2009 2009
Kokaloo
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A sarcasm filter would be really awesome.
I wouldn't need it though, it would just be handy to everyone who reads what I post.
#1862
5:24 AM Jul 21 2009 2009
Darknid
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Quote (originally posted by Mood4food77):
wario-mario is 65-35 wario

don't use me as an example
snake should rape mario
diddy goes even with everyone, like ZSS


lol no it isn't. idk where you got that. it's 60-40 wario at best, probably closer to even.
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#1863
9:55 AM Jul 21 2009 2009
Praxis
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Quote (originally posted by SuaSa):
Because of the CP problem and not everyone has them as a counterpick.

1) You must lose a game to said character
2) They must stay said character and you must have the appropriate secondary.

GL meeting those requirements.


That's why people like Lain switch to Metaknight round 2. xD

Remember, on your CP, they choose first.  If they pick Metaknight, what do you do?  Just stay the same I guess.

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#1864
10:15 AM Jul 21 2009 2009
Soren9
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Quote (originally posted by Praxis):
That's why people like Lain switch to Metaknight round 2. xD

Remember, on your CP, they choose first.  If they pick Metaknight, what do you do?  Just stay the same I guess.

i don't want dittos for every second and third match.
and by the way a ness/G&W team isn't a counter (u mentioned it a few pages back)
it is true marth as trouble with ness but once teh infinite grab release starts ness is screwed.  although i think G&W is 55-45 in marths favor (it could 60-40 but thats irrevlevent)
Officialy marths hardest match ups were beleived to be snake MK,D3. ((personaly snake is easy once u get a hold of how they camp)
although i know ROb runs 50-50 or has 55-45 advantedge
anyway even though marth will have the best match ups he is harder to use then MK and still has bad stages (final destination jungle japes) and still has at least a few character counters
#1865
10:31 AM Jul 21 2009 2009
General Viper Pit
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just ban the bastard now
#1866
11:15 AM Jul 21 2009 2009
Umbre
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Quote (originally posted by Praxis):
Peach beats Wario, Diddy, ROB, and Olimar.

Luigi also (slightly) has an advantage on Wario, and a bigger one on Olimar.

Pikachu and Ice Climbers used to be mid tier and counter Falco and Dedede. icon_razz

Sheik has zero deaths on Falco...probably even though.

I seem to recall Zelda having an advantage on a high tier character that really surprised me, I'm gonna go try to look it up later.


I didn't say high tier too, but I'll accept that.

Oh, and that high tier with the disadvantage to Zelda are either R.O.B or Kirby.
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#1867
11:28 AM Jul 21 2009 2009
Eternal Mangekyo Zebra
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Quote (originally posted by UmbreonMonarchy):
I didn't say high tier too, but I'll accept that.

Oh, and that high tier with the disadvantage to Zelda are either R.O.B or Kirby.
Zelda is an interesting character. She is so low on the list but has advantages on a high tier. It seems all the Triforce characters *expect TL who isnt in Twilight princess so it doesnt matter* have recovery problems which is why they are really bad.
#1868
11:46 AM Jul 21 2009 2009
Chihuahua
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Re: Meta Knight Ban
Let the Melee players (like me) decide! icon_biggrin
#1869
11:59 AM Jul 21 2009 2009
Eternal Mangekyo Zebra
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Quote (originally posted by Chihuahua):
Let the Melee players (like me) decide! icon_biggrin
Then i ban marth and jiggs from melee.
#1870
12:00 PM Jul 21 2009 2009
Flutist
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Quote (originally posted by UmbreonMonarchy):
I didn't say high tier too, but I'll accept that.

Oh, and that high tier with the disadvantage to Zelda are either R.O.B or Kirby.


No, they're Falco and DDD.
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#1871
12:06 PM Jul 21 2009 2009
Eternal Mangekyo Zebra
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Quote (originally posted by Flutist):
No, they're Falco and DDD.
Wow. I can see DDD but falco? I had no idea Zelda had such potenial.
#1872
12:08 PM Jul 21 2009 2009
Umbre
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Falco vs Zelda is even at best for Zelda.

Zelda does have the slight advantage over Dedede, but I'm not surprised by that.
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#1873
12:18 PM Jul 21 2009 2009
Aberu
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So let's see what we have so far...

1. You want to ban metaknight because he wins all the time? Proven false he wins less than half of the tournaments, snake is just as bannable by that logic.

2. You want to ban metaknight because you believe the metagame turns into only metaknights playing metaknights and everyone secondary'ing him? Proven false by plenty of people here, barely any of the top ranked in Evo and Genesis were MK mains, and the ones who had secondaried him at ONE time, didn't do it there.

3. You want to say he's broken, but he isn't. Just a bit too overpowered and overpowered characters never get banned from fighting games.

4. You say he breaks the counterpicking system, well Old Sagat broke the counterpicking system in american tournaments for ST2, and no one properly countered my argument on that. He only had 1 even matchup, everyone else was in favor of him, and lots of tournaments are won by him, but it's still seen as balanced in some way that doesn't warrant a ban.


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#1874
12:43 PM Jul 21 2009 2009
Warpd
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I thought there were 4 MKs in the top 5 at Genesis.
#1875
12:44 PM Jul 21 2009 2009
Eternal Mangekyo Zebra
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Quote (originally posted by Warpd):
I thought there were 4 MKs in the top 5 at Genesis.
No there were three i think
#1876
2:18 PM Jul 21 2009 2009
Magic Kirby
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lolz he's not gonna get banned accept it
#1877
2:58 PM Jul 21 2009 2009
BFAA Kwiz
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Anything is possible.
#1878
3:10 PM Jul 21 2009 2009
Eternal Mangekyo Zebra
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I really dont think he will. As long as Ally exists anyway. *shifty eyes*
#1879
3:10 PM Jul 21 2009 2009
Tornado Watch
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Please ignore this post.
Last edited by Tornado Watch, 5:38 PM on Jul 27, 2009
#1880
3:15 PM Jul 21 2009 2009
Umbre
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Quote (originally posted by SonicSmash):
You even said he's slightly OP. Your signature makes all that you said null and void. You don't want MK banned because you use him.


And I could the same argument that you want him banned because you don't use him.

gg
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